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| For those churches that are elder led. Have you ever struggled with the elders getting into areas in children's that you wish they wouldn't? How have you handled it? and for those women out there, have you ever felt like you face other "roadblocks" or controls because you are woman? Any suggestions on how to navigate through as a leader of a major ministry in your church????? I appreciate your thoughts! Thanks, Bonnie Workinger Sr. Director Children's
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| Prayer & submission to authority (ouch that hurts!!). I know what you are going through, been there & done that at a previous church. Just submit to the authority God has put you under and pray ALOT!! If we honor those God put over us, God will honor us. It's hard because it goes against our flesh, but it is the best way I know how to handle it.
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| | Hi Bonnie - At my current church I have YET to feel that my gender has been an issue. At my former church, my gender was an issue from time to time. That's kinda weird because my current church is in a denomination that has the reputation of being gender-biased and my former church was in a denomination that professed to be gender neutral. At my former self-described gender-neutral church, I was paid less. It was assumed that I was next in line to take messages and do secretarial duties for pastoral and business staff if the secretaries were not available. I also ran one of the largest ministries without administrative support of any kind. I do not think I am above any of those duties. I'm saying that the males were paid more, rarely took messages and did not do secretarial tasks. I always thought it was the position of Children's Minister that was treated differently. Looking back on it now, I see that it's because Children's Ministers are usually female and that is why there was a disparity. At my new church in the denomination with the gender-biased reputation I am paid equitably and told that I am NOT expected to answer the phones. I am expected to focus my specialized skills on ministry responsibilities not secretarial services. The secretary supports me in the same way she supports everyone else on staff. It's surprisingly refreshing to be treated like "one of the guys" where one might expect just the opposite!
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| Well, Bonnie...as a man in Children's Ministry I can't speak to the gender thing...I do know that generally speaking in the business world that women generally make less money, generally on average have lower positions of authority and other things like that.
However, I can speak the elder-led issue. And without stepping on toes here (which is something people like us try to avoid a lot), I'm going to say that authority is an issue on both sides of the equation.
This is what I mean. God called you to the specific church you are at with the specific type of leadership structure. You need to know how to work with those who are in authority over you out of obedience to Christ.
At the same time, God called you to preach the Gospel to children whom you minister to on a weekly (or more) basis. Those elders also had a hand in hiring you to do the job that they couldn't. Sometimes it takes a little bit of letting go on your part and a little letting go on their part. Sometimes we need to push because we were hired to get the job of children's ministry done, and sometimes we need to not push so as to be obedient to leaders.
This is what I find helps the most: talk about what you are called to do with your leaders and the people you may be having trouble with. Talk about vision...talk about winning the lost...talk about what Jesus did with the children & how that's what you are all about. How can anyone argue with that?
Keep up the good work!
Mark Myles
Mark Myles
Director of Children's Ministries
Campbell River Baptist Church |
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