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Posted 11/6/2009 12:15:54 PM
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Hello, everyone, this is the first time I've posted here. Spent a couple days lurking and reading some threads and finally decided to pipe up.

Since June, I have been a paid part-time youth minister in a small Methodist church. I have 5 or 6 regular youth, and one or two who come occasionally. A handful who have come once and not been back. My husband helps me with pretty much everything youth-related, and in fact, being five years older than I am, he has much more knowledge and experience than I do. Basically, I have gotten really discouraged over the past couple of months, and I don't know if it's legitimate. I've begun to question whether this was ever my calling to begin with. I've considered quitting, although I would probably stay until someone else had been found. By the way, I'm the first youth minister this church has ever had. In the past, it had always been volunteer-run, and there was never any real consistency, from what I've gathered.

This church is in another city than our home, about 20 minutes away. But my husband and I had talked almost since we first got married about possibly doing youth ministry together. So we heard that there was a church that needed a youth minister and right away decided to get more information. Now, at the time, he had begun leaning less towards youth ministry and more toward college ministry. (He is 28.) And so, almost before I knew it, I was meeting with the pastor and the board of what's-it-called, thinking, "Sure, I don't have any training or experience besides showing up every Sunday night and hanging out with students, but how hard can it be? And anyway, my husband can help me out when I need it, even though he'll be spending more time with college students."

So, obviously, in the last five months I've figured out (newsflash!) that there is a LOT more involved than showing up, thinking of some game, and hanging out with students. My husband has seen me struggling (and crying) and so he's decided once more to go full-speed-ahead youth ministry. So much so that we're looking at an apartment a few blocks from the church and thinking about quitting our jobs here to become substitute teachers for the school district to see the youth (and their friends!) more often.

And sometimes I think that's the best thing to do. But then sometimes I just want to go back to how things were before I was a youth pastor. It was a lot easier, and you knew that if you messed up, nobody's soul was hanging in the balance. It's almost to the point where I'm just ready to throw up my hands and let my husband run everything, even though he works overnight 4 nights a week, including Saturday and Sunday, and he's trying to finish his degree. But I don't want to walk out on the youth. But then, sometimes I think I'm doing more harm than good. And I don't want to walk out on my other job. And I don't know if I would like living in Willis and substituting. But our lease here ends Dec. 15th, so we have to decide very soon.

Anyway, the original reason I decided to find a forum like this is that it feels like it's just my husband and myself on an island trying to do youth ministry. I'm hoping for maybe a sense of community and fellowship, a group that can support me and encourage me to keep going, even though I sometimes (such as right now, as I type this) don't want to.

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Posted 11/17/2009 10:03:31 AM
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Hi,

You are right....there is ALOT more involved in doing youth ministry than just showing up for the meetings. I am going to tell you some of my experience.....I used to think the same way you do...Am I really doing these kids any good?,  Is it all worth it? Are they getting anything out of my messages?, etc. I wanted to quit so many times, but I would keep plugging through !

Finally, the Lord opened my eyes one day to the fact that youth ministry is not about me...it's about Him and those teenagers. It is our job as youth leaders to teach and train these kids, sometimes they act like they are not hearing a thing and it appears I am wasting my time. But I have the assurance that the work that I am doing is not in vain. The Lord will speak to their hearts and if not now then someday they will remember the word that has been taught to them.There are so many ups and downs that come with this job, from the youth, to the parents, to the Pastor, and other leaders of the church. The road is not easy but just to think that MAYBE, just MAYBE a soul will be saved from Hell through something that I have said or something I have done makes it all worth while.

There are so many teenagers out there that just want someone to love them for who they are. Alot of them don't get it at home. For them to be able to come somewhere and to someone that will show them a little love may mean more to one young person then you could ever imagine. Isn't a young life worth that?  To know that some how I may have played a small ( a very small) part in their life is all the reward I will ever need. Teenagers are faced with so much temptation these days and they need someone they can depend on to be there for them when they need someone other than a parent. You are still very close to their age so you have a much better chance of being able to connect with them than I can at 47 years old. Just be yourself....love them....teach them what you can ....let the Lord guide you.....don't feel incompetent....the Lord would not have placed you in that position if He was not going to make you capable.

When I first started teaching 7 years ago, I thought I cannot do this....I don't even know the Bible well enough to teach. But through the years and alot of learning myself I have found that it is not how good of a teacher that you are but how much of your time you are willing to give them ( I work full time, but just a text here and there or a special note on facebook, doesn't have to be actual hours spent with them) and how much love you will show them. Don't get me wrong, I teach every Wed night, God has taught me alot, and the word needs to be given, but just for them to know that someone cares with the love of Christ, I think ,means the world to some.

I hope that I can encourage you in what God has called you to. He will not call you that He won't equip you for the calling. You ARE doing these kids good, don't let the devil beat you down and tell you that you are not! Hang in there, I will pray that God will direct your path. Follow Him and He will lead !

God Bless you and Thank you for being a part of these young lives!

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Posted 12/8/2009 10:58:20 AM
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Have you read, Your First Two Years in Youth Ministry ?

Another good book is The Youth Builder, Burns and DeVries.

I went into youth ministry with no training. Learned as I went along, read many books, went to as many youth ministry training events I could go to. Built relationships with other local youth ministers and learned from their successes and their failures.

Keep pluggin away!


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Posted 12/12/2009 7:07:41 PM
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add is right on with first two years of youth ministry. I would add purpose driven youth ministry and sustainable youth ministry to that list.

A few questions.

Did you know how big this youth ministry was when you took the job? Then why do you think it is bugging you now that it is still small?

I would bet these kids are waiting for you to move on in some respects. Just saying, most youth groups have turnstile youth pastors who come and go out of their lives quicker than the flu comes around.

I understand your only in month 5 and are a few days away now from getting yourself at the end of your lease. I'm not sure leaving your jobs will help or hurt. That is a faith question. If you can keep your jobs and keep doing it, you can have more resources to do the right thing in the long run. IF you guys can find good paying jobs closer to that church, awesome.

I would spend some time reading those books, and build a battle plan. It is really rare that churches explode in growth, sometimes when new pastors come in, there is an initial decrease in attendance before the increase comes up.

Try to find where the kids are in their spiritual journeys and start there. encourage them to bring friends, and go from there.

Best wishes.

matt


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Posted 12/14/2009 2:08:10 PM
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Hey Felix,

I can TOTALLY relate. My story reads somewhat similar to yours, as far as working in a small town methodist church, which is it's own special project. : ) i think we should get a special badge for putting up with that mess. anyways, i digress.

I agree with the guys that have replied, read 1st 2 years of YM, and purpose driven youth ministry is good as well. the one I am reading/loving right now is "think orange" by reggie joiner, and the idea is to partner with parents, because if both of you are saying the same thing, it might sink in. if it's done right, I think it can. If it's done wrong, they'll just get annoyed that you and their parents are out to kill their fun, so be creative when you say the same things.

of course, the idea is for you and their parents to make much of Jesus, not so much to harp on their habits, their bad attitude at home, etc. it takes more thinking that i'm giving credit here...

Prayers for you in the work though. living close to home, but trapped in small town is a tough place to be. i know my wife makes me a better youth worker, so know that your husband helps you, and that God has done that for you. My wife bugs me sometimes, because she nags me about details, but I NEED someone to make me think about details, so it's not all that bad.

but know the burnout in youth work is high, and we tend to hyper react sometimes and bail too soon. stick it out, and see what God does. and feel free to hit me up anytime for ideas. would love to help, especially since i know/understand a decent amount of the uMC machine.


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Posted 12/14/2009 9:28:04 PM
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Hey Felix,



but know the burnout in youth work is high, and we tend to hyper react sometimes and bail too soon. stick it out, and see what God does. and feel free to hit me up anytime for ideas. would love to help, especially since i know/understand a decent amount of the uMC machine.


I agree. Don't bail out. Swimming when the surf is high often takes its toll in the first few waves. You need to learn the ocean your swimming in, time the waves right and find where and how you can make progress and who needs help.

:-)


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